Amid the heat, humidity, and high political drama of COP30 in Belém, adaptation finance and policy expert Sabrina Bachrach returns to the Climate Proofers podcast for a frank, inside-the-venue debrief on the summit so far.
She walks us through the fast-moving state of play on the Global Goal on Adaptation (GGA), and the ongoing debate over a proposed set of indicators that could help countries speak the same language on climate resilience.
While the indicators — and the negotiations around them — are technical and complex, their purpose is clear: to give the adaptation process its equivalent of the 1.5°C temperature rise target for mitigation. Sabrina talks us through the obstacles in the way of a final agreement, and explains why these last few days of crunch talks are likely to make or break the adaptation agenda.
Sabrina also shares what she’s been working on at COP30 — from helping launch nine “Resilience Must-Knows,” a new qualitative framework for decision-makers, to unveiling FINI (Fostering Investable National Planning and Implementation) a major initiative aimed at making national adaptation plans genuinely investable. There’s also insights on private sector engagement at this year’s summit, particularly from insurers keen to protect their business models from runaway climate risks.
If you’re eager to get up to speed on all things adaptation at this year’s COP, this is the episode for you.
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We talk about:
👉 The on-the-ground atmosphere in Belém, from the intense heat in the venue to Indigenous protests and a contentious military intervention
👉 The state of negotiations over the Global Goal on Adaptation, and the core fight over whether finance metrics must be included
👉 The growing divide between developed and developing countries on doubling or tripling adaptation finance, the role of Article 2.1(c) of the Paris Agreement, and why high-level ministers may need to unlock progress.
👉 New initiatives launched at COP30, including nine “Resilience Must-Knows” and the debut of FINI — Fostering Investable National Planning and Implementation
👉 The high level of engagement from insurers, banks, and corporates in this summit, and why decision-useful quantification is now driving adaptation action inside boardrooms
Thanks for listening!
Louie Woodall
Editor
